Dumbest Military that I have ever seen.
I want Will to find a sweet, nerdy boy who can love him back! It’s breaking my heart to see him pining for a straight guy who will never feel the same way, cus he truly deserves the best.
My favorite TV Series of all time
Another boring episode that dragged on way too long. Had to skip thru some parts. So many holes in the storyline. She escapes easily with no soldiers re-surfacing. They steal a caravanette with the owners just sitting there next to it. Lol.
You think how are they gonna top it this time and yet they do it.. jut brilliant episode again.
so nice of the military dudes hunting her to take a breather just long enough for El to reunite with the others and have a heart-to-heart with Papa
Superb song to end on — and a sweet remix of it at that! This is how you build up to a finale.
Millie Bobby Brown really hit it out of the park in this one. It‘s been exhausting seeing Eleven so defeated on the reg, and her show of strength and independence here was refreshing.
On a another note, the new stoner/pizza delivery guy character is just plain annoying. Not likable whatsoever.
GET! FUCKED! PAPA!!!
You totally deserved that “reasons you suck” speech from Eleven. You had full intentions to destroy families by raising weaponized psychic terrorist children, you were blatantly aware what you were doing was wrong, and yet you did it anyway. All these innocent deaths (with only a few exceptions) and preventable end of the world are explicitly your fault, and your comeuppance was long overdue. YOU were the monster this whole time, not Eleven.
Your only good deed was helping Eleven regain her powers just so she can save the world YOU doomed, and trying to protect her from Sullivan’s military invasion. But like Billy last season, a shitty person is still a shitty person. Don’t rest in peace you filthy taint smear.
Anyway, Eleven is back, the Hawkins crew is strapped up, and shit is about to go down!!!!
After all that in the Munsons trailer and Steve didn't grab a pair of Shoes before they stole the motor home? LOL
First off, Noah Schnapp's performance in the car scene with Mike was incredible!
The homage to the start of A New Hope when the army were raiding the facility was a nice touch, even if the action itself was a tad sloppy.
this season would've been so much better with the whole russian military subplot minimized.. it took me 3 months and multiple attempts to finally watch s4 pt2 because I DO NOT CARE about that plotline and it's so drawn out
Oh god, they are still acting stupid lol. This wasn't as good as the previous episode but we got some more action at least. I love watching Eleven blowing shit up.
You know what they say, everything that goes woke turns to shit.
Man this is so bad. All of it. It's like being in hell but not in a good way!
Oh yeah ! It’s the 80's and Soviet Union is still a thing!
Seriously?!
I can stand Vecna and stuff but Michael Myers? That was really scary guys no needs on doing that?
i love the pre-war episodes
this episode is a bit tad boring for me esp 'mike, will, jonathan, and argygle(?) team' but that's my opinion and you might have a different one :))
After the attack, you fell into a coma. Like One, you had pushed yourself beyond your limit. And it very nearly destroyed you. But that is where your similarities ended.
Brenner
The writing is a bit all over the place this season. Some scene designs just don't make any sense. Like Nancy uncovering a door that opened outwards to a military sniper getting distracted by a civilian van rather than taking his shot. The whole papa death scene was lacklustre too. It was all very lazy and odd writing.
The Hawkins gang are holding the show together for me. Struggling to care about the other plots.
The best part of the episode BY FAR was the amazing remix of Separate Ways (Worlds Apart). Absolute fire.
Worst episode of the season. Lab scenes are copied from Akira!
Nothing important happens during the ninety minutes running time. Just one cool helicopter explosion which has nothing to do with the plot.
Hey, has anyone noticed how cheesy the CGI creatures are? Like some crappy video game.
Papa’s whole deal kind of falls flat for me. The stakes-raising left and right has me on the edge of my seat though.
Boring! Had to keep skipping the boring cliché nice friend-to-friend chitchats. It only became watchable towards the end.
Good episode. That goodbye scene was perfect.
the helicopter shot as it was falling down with eleven standing in the middle of the frame, chef's KISS
Poor Will... The boy suffered since the pilot, give him a break!
That last scene felt like the Duffer Brothers got up and left and Quentin Tarantino took over!
The VFX team seriously needs to open an anatomy book or simply got someone the same age and height as Eleven's at the time of the first season to stand-in for reference. Her head is tiny and in some scenes her whole body.
I predict that Munson will be a gonner in the ne t episode. They've set him up for it perfectly. He's not been happy that he's been running away from danger all the time. He had an emotional scene with Dustin. I think he's going to be killed whilst saving Dustin.
Almost perfect. But I didn't get what happened with the other helicopter, and why did they all took so long to go upstairs when the guys from the helicopter weren't responding?
This is amazing,this contains something we all have been waiting for or we wanted to do ourselves or maybe some of us didn't, it depends on which side we are.
1 hr 25 min, I didn't even realize when this time gone. looking forward to the season finale 2hr 3p min treat. hurray ayyyy
also will there be a season 5? or this is the end , reply and let me know?
wait is the reply option even available here ?!!
[7.9/10] I don’t know how Stranger Things wants me to feel about Papa. From my vantage point, he is, as Eleven calls him, a monster. In both flashbacks and present day scenes, we’ve seen him abuse the children in his care. So much of the first two seasons in particular was centered on Eleven moving past that. She embraces this new, wholesome, loving family, and discards her old, pernicious one. She finds a real dad, one who loves her and cares for her, rather than to have to swallow the harm presented as love she’d endured for so much of her life.
But then this season presented him as a force for good, at least to a degree. He helps Eleven regain her powers, as the ability to lift the giant metal drum indicates. He thinks she’s the only thing that can stop Henry/One/Vecna. He’s trying to make her better, make her well.
At the same time, though, Papa doesn’t care about what Eleven wants. He doesn’t care about her psychological well-being. Owens calls him out for it. He reminds Brenner that this bunker was never meant to be a prison and upbraids him for freaking out Eleven with the threat of Henry breaking the boundary between worlds, rather than easing her into it. Papa thinks he knows what’s best for his “daughter”. He holds her against her will, declaring that it’s for her own good, trapping her in the same shock collars he once held all of his other “children” in.
I was, frankly, glad to see that. It played like a reminder that Brenner is not a good man. After a season in which the show seemed to be trying to rehabilitate him, it finally had his worse, controlling, abusive nature rear its ugly head. Confining Eleven, ignoring her wishes, drugging her and putting her under your control, is legitimately monstrous.
And yet, when the military baddies show up, he tries to save her. More to the point, he wants her to believe that he always meant well, that he wanted what was best for her. God help me, maybe he did, at least in his own mind. I want to give Stranger Things credit. I want to believe it understands the nuance of abuse, where abusers do not necessarily see themselves as monsters, but think they’re doing the right thing for their victims. I want to buy that it sees the shades of gray in Brenner, someone who does unspeakable, repugnant things to innocent kids, but in his own twisted way, thinks he’s helping them. There is truth in that, and a complicated villain is a better villain.
The fact that Eleven grants him no absolution, but simply bids “Papa” goodbye, suggests the series understands. The feelings of the abused toward their parents is complicated. Love, attachment, care remains, even if it becomes hard to reconcile with the horrors inflicted. In a show that’s not afraid to spell things out, it leaves all this to subtext, a bold, subtle move that leads to humble, foolhardy viewers potentially overreading the situation.
Speaking of subtext, I don’t know if we’re going to get a scene with Will and Mike more emotionally explicit than the one we got here. The Pizza Van crew finally matters to the story, showing up to rescue Eleven from the Bunker and take her where she needs to go. But the most important thing they do isn’t plot-relevant.
It comes when Will reassures a worried Mike. Mike fears that Eleven doesn’t need him anymore, that he was a dumb schmuck who happened to find her, but that it’s not fated they be together. Will offers an emotional reassurance, about -- how it’s Mike’s heart that holds him together, how much he still means to her, how much he’ll always mean to her -- when it’s clear (to the audience at least) that he’s really talking about himself rather than Eleven.
It’s a great performance from Noah Schnapp, who absolutely kills it with the projected emotions he feels when speaking about someone else’s relationship. The reveal with his vaunted painting works and weaves together the complicated feelings of all three members of this unorthodox love triangle. The catch is, I don’t know if I want the show to go further than this. Will professing his true feelings in plain terms seems like a bill that’s due for the show at this point. And yet, there’s something poignant about Will having these feelings but, due to societal prejudices and recognizing where his friend’s heart lies, not being able to express them. There’s something true to life, even artful about that, and I wonder where Stranger Things will leave it.
I wonder far less what’s going to happen with Joyce, Hopper, Murray, and their pair of reluctant Russian allies. The most important thing in that corner of the show right now is the reveal that the Soviets are experimenting on creatures from the Upside Down. The scientists at this facility are vivisecting demogorgons, seemingly cloning or growing their own army of this sort of fauna, and even appear to have a mind flayer contained within their walls. Who knows what it means exactly, beyond the obvious -- the Ruskies are prepping for a war with extraordinary, albeit uncontrollable, weapons at their disposal -- but it’s an intriguing reveal.
What’s less intriguing is the Joyce/Hopper crew trying to find their way back to the United States. Escaping from the Russian prison is surprisingly easy. (Apparently Yuri’s van is bulletproof, which, fair I guess?) Their mission to use some combo of Yuri’s helicopter and a coded message to allies in the USA to get back is fine. But even this penultimate episode can’t escape the sense that this is a sideshow to keep the adults away from the major events happening in Hawkins and the the desert, rather than a meaningful part of the story in and of itself. Even Hopper and Joyce’s mutual “I thought you were dead” conversation doesn’t have much juice to it.
We get more character moments among the now united Hawkins faithful though. There’s still some excitement here. Nancy witnesses the horrors Henry experienced and then, in a big surprise, he lets her go as a messenger for Eleven. The crew steals a winnebago and collects weapons to fight Vecna’s demons. And they sit in fear with the knowledge that he means to use “four gates” to shatter the bounds between his world and ours, putting everyone our heroes know and love at risk in the process.
Still, this is mostly a “calm before the storm” part of the story for the Hawkins kids, which tend to be some of my favorite parts of genre movies and shows. It’s a chance to have those important character moments before the last act fireworks take the stage. We get to see the players bouncing off one another, expressing what they mean to each other, rather than just hacking and slashing at the dramatic CGI beastie du jour.
Some of these moments are small. Erica telling Lucas that even if they bicker, he’s still her brother, is quite sweet. Eddie roughhousing with Dustin over his puns and telling him to never change is weirdly flirtatious, but also very rousing in how he sees the kid’s greatness. And as much as I’m down on all the teases of Steve and Nancy getting back together, Steve waxing rhapsodic about his dream to have a whole “brood of Harringtons” roaming the countryside in a car like this, while Nancy looks on admiringly, is a really warm moment.
But there’s bigger moments too. Robyn seeing her crush with a boy and it hitting her like lightning is sad and sympathetic. But the same goes for her and Steve aiming to reassure her about it, while she insists there’s bigger fish to fry right now, but he still shows care for his best friend. Likewise, Max and Lucas’ heart-to-heart -- about Max’s willingness to be the bait for Vecna because she doesn’t want to be in harm’s way, about her confidence that she can best him by finding her happiest moment that just so happens to involve Lucas, and Lucas’ insistence that if things go wrong he’s going to deploy Kate Bush in a heartbeat -- affirms one of the sweetest and most earnest little romances on the show before the going gets tough.
Let’s be real, it’s stupid as hell for the kids to strap up and head into the breach to fight a psychic, telekinetic demon dude. Sure, there’s the patina of plausibility to the plan, with the notion that they can get him in his trance while he’s going after Max, something he needs in order to reach this world. But Eleven’s right to fear for them after she uses her mental wandering powers to learn what they’re up to. The blaring sounds of a Journey ballad undercuts the gravity of the situation (and weakens the vibe) more than a little as the episode comes to a close, but it’s a still an ominous thing our heroes are walking into.
There’s grace notes for other villains here. The jerk jock whose name I’ve forgotten in the month or so between episodes menaces Nancy at the gun shop, but never feels like more than a tertiary villain from another show. The big bad military dude shows he’s truly evil (if the torture didn’t do it) when Ownes gives him a safe way to test his theory that Eleven’s behind all the killings, and the guy decides to just kill her anyway. And Henry gets a few more chances to show his victims what waits in store for them if they continue down this path.
The heart of this one, though, comes with Eleven’s confrontation of her would-be father. She takes out those military goons with comparative ease, under the circumstances. SOme of the show’s best imagery comes with her and her pals amid the desert blaze. Eleven even enacts violence against Papa when he threatens to cage her again, force his will upon her “for her own good.”
In the end, though, forces beyond his control prevent him from enacting his plan. To his dying breath, he wants his “daughter” to believe that he meant well. Eleven won’t grant him the forgiveness and understanding he seeks, because whatever lingering attachment she has to the man who raised her, he doesn’t deserve it. But now, whatever his wishes, she is untethered, recharged, and ready to save the people who do deserve her care, and her love.
This is freaking good, Really interesting
BRENNER IS FINALLY DEAD. REJOICE
Well... El is back, right !? Not entirely 100% tho... A roughly 75, 80 give or take. But then who knows... maybe she'll rip a hole in a whole new dimension fighting One. So much can happen in this fight. Can't wait!
this whas amizing, very good
Pride month ended yesterday and Stranger Things really said let’s make our gay characters suffer lmao
Also so glad Brenner is dead, that bitch really had it coming
Bullet through the heart and lungs but can still talk, movie magic y’all!
This is what I've been waiting for
BRENNER IS DEAD LETS PARTYYYYYY
To the 1.3k people from the future who have already watched this episode before release: How was it? :eyes:
Shout by Nick FelkerBlockedParent2024-05-16T04:36:57Z
Good to see the story finally reconnecting